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From locker room gossip to fascinating high performance insights, PODIUM PODCAST is the show that invites some of the biggest names in world sport to discuss life on and off the field of play. With co-hosts, Tom May, former England rugby, and leading performance coach, Simon Hartley, each week we invite a guest to engage in honest and open conversation, where we discuss their white collar world beyond the field of sport and explore how the characteristics and methods that shaped them as a successful sports person helps, or hinders, life after pro sport. Podium Podcast is brought to you by True Potential. To find out more, visit www.TPLLP.com
MEET YOUR HOSTS

Simon Hartley
SIMON is one of the UK’s leading performance coaches and sports psychology consultants. Through extensive work with multiple Olympians to championship-winning teams, Simon brings a unique understanding of elite sports across multiple disciplines.
Tom May
TOM is a former England rugby international. He hung up his boots in 2015, but not before amassing more than 350 first-class club games with some of Europe’s finest teams, including Toulon & Northampton Saints. Tom’s love of rugby and elite sport continues today through his work as a media analyst.

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MARK FOSTER (Part 1)
Mark Foster (Part 1)
The former Gloucester, Exeter Chiefs, Jersey Reds & England rugby 7s player made what seemed like a seamless transition to the finance big leagues on his retirement from pro sport in 2015, taking in the likes of Deloitte before landing his current role as Senior Vice President of Finance with one of sport’s most talked about organisations: LIV Golf.
In part one of this two-part episode, we discuss Mark’s professional rugby career and learn how the transition to life after pro sport was built on real purpose and preparation.
MARK FOSTER (Part 2)
Mark Foster (Part 2)
“With the scale of the (golf) ecosystem we came up against, you can’t just dip your toe in the water.”
Mark Foster discusses all things LIV Golf and explains how the organisation is aiming to disrupt the game of golf.
KATE RICHARDSON-WALSH
Kate Richardson-Walsh
Ed says: “Field hockey is one of those sports I’ve always greatly admired from afar. As both spectator and participant my attention has largely been taken by other disciplines: rugby, athletics and, somewhat left of field, gymnastics. Had they not been in the way, I always thought hockey would’ve been my game of choice.
The Olympics have always provided a hockey fix. Every four years, the event would find a firm place in my viewing schedule. Sean Kerly and his gold medal run at the 1998 Seoul Olympics opened the door, but it was the women’s team and their exploits at the 2016 Rio games that smashed the doors down. I cry very rarely, especially at sport. But I’ll admit to a tear escaping when the team took that epic gold.
At the very heart of that team was their captain, Kate Richardson-Walsh, who we’re delighted to welcome to this week’s Podium Podcast. It’s a story worthy of Hollywood, culminating in one final golden moment. Enjoy!”
DAVID CAMPESE
David Campese
Capped 101 times by the Wallabies, David Campese – Campo – is one of the world’s greatest ever attacking rugby players. With a lethal step and dogged self-belief, the 1991 World Cup winner left defences in tatters the world over, before retiring in 1996.
Tom and Simon find out what he’s been up to since hanging up the boots, and find an opinion – or two – about the state of the modern game.
LAURA MASSARO
Laura Massaro
Imagine being the best in the world at what you do.
You hear ‘world no. 1’ references in commentary and I often wonder if the scale of that achievement sometimes gets lost in the moment.
But just pause for a second and consider it. THE WORLD NUMBER ONE.
Our guest this week was just that – the best in the world at a sport beloved by millions across the world, but one that often doesn’t get the recognition it deserves: squash.
Laura Massaro MBE is the first Englishwoman to hold both the British Open Championship and the World Championship at the same time, representing a pinnacle in a career that raked in a solid haul of medals across World Champs, Commonwealth Games & various other global tournaments.
Tom May and Simon Hartley join Laura to discuss her time at the T and what life looks like now following her retirement in 2019.
DANNY MILLS
Danny Mills
From Norwich to Charlton, Leeds to Manchester City, Danny Mills has plied his trade across the English football map, clocking up close to 350 professional appearances for club and country in the process.
Danny finally hung up his boots in 2009 at the age of 32, due to an ongoing knee injury. But that hasn’t stopped him from indulging his love for long-distance running.
Tom and Simon sat down with Danny just before the 2023 London Marathon to discuss life after football.
JAMIE JONES-BUCHANAN (Part 1)
Jamie Jones-Buchanan (Part 1)
There’s not much this week’s guest has not achieved on the rugby league field.
With more than 400 appearances for his hometown club, Leeds Rhinos, he was an integral part of an iconic team that won multiple Super League Grand Finals, World Club Challenges and plenty of other silverware along the way.
Meet Jamie Jones-Buchanan.
JAMIE JONES-BUCHANAN (Part 2)
Jamie Jones-Buchanan (Part 2)
The Leeds Rhino rugby league team of which Jamie was a key part was not short of talent. Rob Burrow, Jamie Peacock, to name but a few. But at the heart of the team; the architect of its fortunes was Jamie’s old friend and best man, Kevin Sinfield.
In part 2 of this Podium Podcast, Jamie sheds some light on the inner mechanics of one of sport’s most inspiring individuals.
TONY UNDERWOOD
Tony Underwood
You’d be forgiven for thinking this week’s Podium Podcast guest might have a somewhat inflated ego about them. A former commercial jet pilot – a Captain, no less – with some of the world’s biggest airlines and the recipient of more than a few international rugby union caps, a certain self-assuredness might even be understandable.
But as Tony Underwood sits down with Tom and Simon, he shows nothing but modesty and humility. A warm and inviting character, he speaks openly and honestly, offering a fascinating insight into the experience that perhaps defines his (rugby) career more than any other: that 1995 Rugby World Cup semi-final against New Zealand, where a rampant Jonah Lomu got busy etching his name into rugby folklore.
DION DUBLIN
Dion Dublin
You sometimes forget what a damn fine footballer this week’s Podium Podcast guest was, such is the skill with which Dion Dublin handles his current TV presenting and media pundit duties.
But before Match of the Day & Homes Under the Hammer there was Aston Villa, Man Utd, Celtic and several other top-flight clubs.
Tom May meets the former centre-forward that has made the transition to TV work look like a walk in the park.
PAULA DUNN
Paula Dunn
Paula Dunn is from arguably the last golden era of world athletics; when digital media wasn’t really a thing and football not so dominant. In the 1980s and early 90s, athletics was the sport that offered us the heroes and household names. The Olympics, Commonwealth Games, World Champs dominated TV screens, providing incredible moments from perhaps the purest form of physical competition.
Paula was in that mix, competing at the big championships from where she would collect a medal haul that included five medals at the Commonwealth Games.
Sport psychologist, Simon Hartley, picks up the conversation with the former GB 100m, 200m and sprint relay Olympian.
CHEMMY CRAWFORD-ALCOTT
Chemmy Crawford-Alcott
If you could bottle determination you’d want whatever Chemmy Crawford-Alcott (née Alcott) takes, such is her drive and ambition to achieve her objectives.
The mum of 2 retired from Alpine ski racing almost a decade ago, but not before competing in 3 Olympics and 6 World Championships, bagging herself a bunch of broken bones along the way.
Chemmy opens up to Tom and Simon about how she fought her way to the slopes to become Great Britain’s most successful female ski racer.
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